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What if?

When Ron was first diagnosed with terminal cancer he asked me, “what if I choose to do nothing?”  The doctors in Singapore told him he had 4-6 months to live and that the final cause of death would likely be starvation.  Sitting on our bed in Jakarta, I told him I would support any decision that he made but that we had to get home and find out what the oncologists said.  They had not yet identified the spots in his lungs and we didn’t know what, if any, his options were.  The urgent thing at the time was to get him home and treated for the severe jaundice he had and to prevent his body from going septic.  I said I would support his decision but I don’t know if I meant it fully or if I even understood what that meant. The World Bank medical staff called me in Jakarta to make sure I understood that all that could be done for Ron was to slow the disease down. Everyone seemed to feel it was very important that I knew that the cancer was terminal. They believed what the doctors in Singapore believed which was that the cancer had metastasized in his lungs, lights on PET scan or none, even with no biopsy. 

After that long month of racing around to various doctors, which doctor should we choose, what course of treatment, maybe it isn’t cancer but an IPMN? Maybe it is cancer with an IPMN? Each doctor who saw the lung scans said, “that just doesn’t look like cancer”.  Can we do Whipple surgery? We met with the doctor who has done more Whipple surgeries than any other doctor in the world.  Part of that is because the dude was OLD. We had concerns that he might not make through the surgery without a nap.  He was condescending and harsh but in the end as unpleasant as he was to deal with, everything he told us was correct. No blowing smoke up our asses….to put it crudely.   The surgeon we chose to do the Whipple (not old dude) cried when he showed us the final biopsy results that confirmed that Ron’s lungs were filled with cancerous tumors, not a weird internationally found infection like we were all hoping for.  That took survival off the table where it has perched so carefully and delicately. 

During this time we were also deciding where should we live until we got our house back? Which hotel, which short-term apartment, rent furniture, borrow stuff, what to do with our completely uprooted, chaotic lives?

While the doctor cried and gave Ron his death sentence, Ron never did. He even thanked the doctor very graciously for his time and expertise and clear explanation of what was going on. Ron comforted him and said, he knew how hard it must be to give patients this kind of news. I put my head between my knees to make the room stop wobbling and to make sure I didn’t throw up. I looked around the room for a trash can and didn’t see one. No way was I going to puke on the floor. I couldn’t even look at the doctor again. I just wanted him to disappear.  I was in such a disembodied shock I couldn’t drive home and Ron had to drive. He didn’t feel that bad physically at that moment.

When we got back to the apartment where we settled for two months, I experienced a shut-down of my body. I had this overwhelming need to sleep and I couldn’t fight the urge.  I slept for a while.  We had to tell our families.

So back to “what if?”  What if Ron chose to do nothing? Would he have suffered less? He likely would have died sooner but as he said, he was going to die anyway.  I so desperately wanted him to live as long as possible, to have him with me, with us.  I wanted to believe as his world shrunk to the infusion center, oncologist’s office and our house, that just being with us would be enough for him to want to live—in spite of the pain and Ron’s rapidly decreasing ability to do anything that he enjoyed.  I didn’t truly support the decision to do nothing and the oncologists gave us various options and sounded so optimistic. Ron chose a course of treatment that surprised the oncologist because it was less aggressive than what most men of Ron’s age, in the doctor’s experience, would have chosen. Ron made it clear that he wanted quality of life over quantity.  And yet, what if I supported him at the beginning better?  What if we started out with palliative care only? Chemo can be palliative.  For Ron it may have prolonged his life but it did not give him quality.   He suffered so much and every procedure that was supposed to be a piece of cake, that was supposed to be painless or uncomplicated, never was any of those things.  At one point he asked me in anger and frustration if I (and other family members) just wanted him to subject himself to any and all procedures.  Now I look back and think, hindsight is for shit.  If I had loved him selflessly would I have been able to give him the chance to choose to do nothing? Did I love him enough?  Did I put his needs first or my own?  Are people really capable of unselfish love? Even now, I just want him back so badly I could scream until I bled.  (Do you know there is no place I can scream. There is no place to go where no one would hear me.)

We talked over each decision and chose together. Ron was too strong, too smart and independent, and often stubborn a person to be pushed and manipulated.   We had the enormous love and serious support from all the Kim family doctors—and by that I mean family members who are doctors and were deeply involved in helping us understand what the hell was going on and what our options were.  Even now I say “our” options only it wasn’t my option, it was Ron’s.  I never wanted him to be alone or feel alone and I always said “we”.  Now I can see how much I didn’t understand about what he went though, the constant discomfort, pain, nausea, fatigue, and diminishing clarity.   I don’t think that I pushed him or controlled him much.  I did sometimes though.  I managed his care and as he weakened I took over more and more.  I made the appointments, talked to the docs and nurses, explained the medicines to him and told him what to take and when. I hooked him up to the TPN and then the PCA.  I really tried to give him space to decide what he wanted for himself but I also told him over and over that I didn’t want to lose him and I cried so much.

During the first two weeks that we were back in the states I got the best advice I received during the entire 8 months.   Ronit, a counselor from the World Bank, called me a few times to see if how she could help us.  I remember talking to her in the hallway of the second hotel and saying to her that I didn’t know how to act in front of Ron.  We had only been back in the states for a little over a week. Was it okay to cry? Could I show my fear and weakness when he needed strength and confidence? Did I even know what he needed or how he needed me to be for him.  This is what Ronit told me: “Ask him”.  Oh.  Right.   I hadn’t thought of that. Seriously, I hadn’t.  She also told me that what he needs or wants might change so to ask him often and then, as best as I could, to respect his desires.

During his illness, Ron’s choices sometimes were baffling. He resisted pain medication for so long and it was awful and scary for me and the girls. He would sit at the kitchen table rocking back and forth and I would get so uncomfortable watching him, I would get angry at him. He moaned in his sleep and kept me awake.  I couldn’t understand why he didn’t want to take the meds and why he was putting us through such a rotten time.  After things got worse over time and the doctor and nurses and all of us wanted him to start controlling his pain and talked to him about it over and over, he finally did.   I am writing this because I didn’t understand why he wouldn’t take pain meds and sometimes it seemed like he wasn’t fighting enough.  Maybe he was trying to retain a modicum of control.   What I realize now and want everyone who has ever spent even 3 seconds in his presence to know with every ounce of their being  is that Ron fought like HELL.  The chemo, otherwise known as poison in the form of hope, the procedures, the meds to counter the chemo, the pain, the endless doctor visits and consultations for additional treatments, and all the other physical indignities. He put up with all that shit and complained so little.  He did it because he loved me, the girls, and our families.  He did it, even though he knew he was going to die.  Every day that he got up and took handfuls of pills and every time he sat in that chemo chair and allowed them to inject him with poison, he was fighting.  Every time he forced down only two bites of food when I wanted him to eat more, he was fighting.  Every time he let me hook him up to the TPN, he was fighting.  He put me and the girls first and yes, he wanted to live for himself but he did all those things for us.

So, what if?  Could I have helped Ron suffer less?  Could we/he have made better choices? Maybe what feels like selfishness or self-absorption continues in that kind of thinking.  Do I really believe I had any control over the cancer? Any control over the pre-determined outcome . There are no answers to this and the what ifs are melting away my insides.  People say, you can’t think that way, don’t think that way.  But, oops, too late, I already did.

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Comment by mem5711 (Denise) on August 30, 2012 at 7:57pm

I think all of us are hit with the "What If's" ..... My "what if's" are only .... if I had insisted he go to the hospital...would he still be here????????  No matter how many time the cardiologist said it wouldn't have made a difference .... I still live with the "what if's"  

Comment by chez2all on August 28, 2012 at 1:35am

What if...???  Many of us have thought this.  One of the things that made me rethink my what ifs was someone saying to me...is anything we think NOW going to change what has already happened?  I've lost 2 husbands, where there things I would do differently now??? Probably, but it still wouldn't change the fact that I did the best I could with the information and knowledge I had at the time and I have still lost 2 husbands.  The first was to terminal brain tumours over a 16 month period, the 2nd was to suicide in March this year.  I know that the thinking 'what if...' is a process to be gone through, but eventually I had to accept that what has happened has happened and there is nothing I can do to change that.  I now need to make forward movement in my life for myself and my children.  Thinking of you...Chez

Comment by SpiritWalker on August 27, 2012 at 7:34pm

I think we all have those momentary "what ifs", but for some of us they seem to go on forever.  Theres no way to change them and yet we try as we run around in circles in our minds and the dreams we may have in the dark night bring them to life.  Rationality arges thaat we can't change it..yet we argue back..then the "if Onlys' come along to back up the "What if's" and around we go again.  With time the "What Ifs and If Onlys" get relegated to the background...but in my experience they never truly go...Because if only I had done the what if..well it would have been very different...but alas I did not!   So I live with the knowledge, yea but what if?   Thanks for sharing...Hugs

Comment by honeys(puddin) on August 27, 2012 at 10:49am

I also have been wracked with the "what ifs".  What if he had just kept dealing with the chest pain that he had been having for a year or so before he went to the Dr.  It wasn't bad and it would go away after a minute or so.  Once he started going to the Dr. they started loading him up on meds and stents and tests and none of that solved the original slight discomfort pain he went in for.  They didn't solve it so he found a different Dr. who totally changed all TEN of his original meds for 10 different meds and STILL no relief from the original pain.  Finally he had a heart attack and then that different Dr. changed all his meds all over again, added a defibulator and then he died.  30 different meds in 11 1/2 weeks from first Dr. visit to last hospital.  Really?  What if we had asked for a 2nd opinion the very first time he had the pain again.  What if we had been more vocal in questioning the necessity of all the meds.  What if we didn't have insurance like before and didn't think we "should" go for a physical to get started on the path to wellness.  I think insurance companies and Dr.'s just want to load you up with anything and everything they can to spread the wealth around.  What if I had chosen a different Dr. for his initial visit.  She's the one that told him she could see him for either the chest pain or the annual physical but not for both since the insurance wouldn't pay and besides if it was his heart then he wouldn't be standing there after a year of the pain.  So he chose the annual physical.  What if he had walked out of the Dr.'s right then and there and found another Dr.  Arg!  I hate myself for not telling him to go to another Dr.  I hate that first Dr.;/

Comment by Barbie Doll on August 27, 2012 at 2:06am

MissingRKK, my heart is breaking reading your story of the progress of your husband's illness.  It is so very similar to my husband's own journey and what our lives became.  The sheer terror and hopefulness and hopelessness.  My husband refused pain meds till the very end because he wanted his mind to stay clear.  I know he was in terrible pain as he also groaned in his sleep.  He felt so much better when he finally started taking meds but he was right, his mind became foggy and I started to lose him then.  He tried to stay alive for me.  The only time I ever saw him cry was when he told me how worried he was about leaving me alone.  HE was so sorry for the pain he knew I would go through.  And yet, I know neither one of us knew just how gut wrenching this pain would be.  So much more than I could ever have dreamed of.  I know we'll get through this but I'm not always sure just how or when the pain will ease and when we will forget all of those months of their battle with f***ing cancer.

Comment by tanya on August 26, 2012 at 10:46pm

Bless your heart honey you have a lot going on there. A very dear friend of mine told me tonite that she had gone to a fundraiser and the key note speaker was Maya Angelo. She said that Maya had spoken of having and giving love is a great responsability. I believe this because I would have done just as you did and fight with my man. (mine died suddenly with no warning) If I had the chance I would fight with and for him. Sounds like he took  his reponsibly of love seriously. He loved YOU that much to do all the things to help him live . Dont beat yourself up too much.  No what ifs will help you along this miserable journey. Honor him by putting all of it to rest if you can and look at your children and see him in them. lay your head on their chest and hear their hearts beating the lifes blood that he gave them. It helps me greatly

Comment by Marsha on August 26, 2012 at 10:32pm

(((((Missing RKK))))) Yes the what ifs will drive us crazy. Eventually we do come to terms with them and realize we did everything we could at the time. Take baby steps and be gentle with yourself. This is not an easy journey but one we share with one another here at WV. Together we do survive and move forward a little bit at a time.

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